100% agree. it's a hideous contagious mind disease that's being spread to children. lm pretty sure that with many of these kids it's attention seeking and it needs nipping in the bud quickly
About the building in the photo: when I see that symbolism so prominently and loudly displayed, I get a different message than civil rights and respect for the outlier individuals with peculiar sexual/gender identities. I see an agenda that centers Androgynous Polymorphous Ambisexuality as the new baseline of sexual identity. Displacing the traditional biology-based paradigm of human sexual identity, Dimorphism.
It the Transgender Transvaluationists would stop playing the shell game and come right out and admit it, that might make for an enlightening debate.
“take care of ourselves and one another” with things like “headphones, fidgets, coloring books, bubbles, snacks, treats.” What treats? Fruit Rolls? Animal crackers? Bear Paws?
This is how self-infantilized these people are. It's not a Gen Z thing either; Christina Hoff Sommers commented on college student 'feminists' who needed 'safe spaces' and when there was a campus speaker they didn't like (in the era before cancellation and deplatforming, the '90s), they put up posters where people who objected also, could come to their 'safe room' and play with fingerpaints and colouring books. Yes really. That would have been the latter X'ers, actually - the earliest Millennials were still in junior high.
I am a Christian conservative who deeply appreciates the courage of Ben, Cori, and Lisa. I have learned a great deal by reading Lisa's work. I am a retired pediatrician and so baffled and ashamed of what so many of our leading children's hospitals have permitted and/or encouraged. The logic of Lisa is entirely consistent with our understanding of the developing person in the formative years. The culture of gender dysphoria clinics is adjusted and highly focused on endorsing change for deeply confused children and adolescents. I hope that plaintiff lawyers will scare children's hospitals from continuing this madness.
I appreciate the courage it took to go and participate at this meeting, especially considering how you had to deal with people who's indoctrination is so over the top I can only compare to to religious zealotry.
It's a very eye opening story to say the least, and you've given me a much better understanding of the whole transgender issue in our schools.
Watched this live-streamed. Thank you Ben, Cori, & Lisa. Your intelligence, healthy communication skill sets, courage, & conviction is greatly admired & respected. Wholly agree with Cori… these kids in 10 years time will be crying, “Where were the responsible adults? Why didn’t any of them protect me? I was just a kid; I didn’t know!” Many desistors & detransitioners have already experienced & shared exactly this. There is a great need for these now adults to connect with the younger generation drowning in the identity sea. I believe some of this work may have begun at Beyond Trans (within Genspect).
I watched the video of the meeting. It was maddening to listen to the audience members responses since they clearly had no intention of actually listening to what was said. It is clear to me that the indoctrination runs deep. Most of my family gets it but there are a few who insist men are women if they say they are. My poor son is under this delusion too, Thank you so much for the work you are doing,
This is brilliant! (Although, I was a little confused by what I suspect may be typos in "Defending the 1st A and viewpoint diversity, as your mom did, is at its most robust when you do more than just begrudgingly allow speech but when you actually listen to other points of views. And here those points of view included multiple D2 parents.” ) But reading your essay together with the recently released Executive Order from the White House on Gender Ideology, I'm feeling energized, to say the least. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!
I feel for the wife/ex-wife of sweater guy and I hope she might find my channel. Can you imagine living with him? The belief that a child "knows" gender ideology at a young age is counter to all of the accepted stages of child development. Men like sweater guy and women like August are going to find this fact severely personally disturbing, because they have adopted an ideology which thwarts healthy child development and causes them to ruminate obsessively with impossible bodily aspirations. Adults like my ex-husband, who opt for hormones and surgeries to attain an opposite sex "look" are channeled into this false belief that a childhood "transition" would have made them indistinguishable from the sex they aspire to. "Passing," in general, does not work. Those who did treatments as teens or pre-teens develop "a look" but it is not accurate as the opposite sex. It reads as "altered," which is how Neddy reads. Hands, feet, brow line, voice and movement reflecting tight (male) or loose (female) joints reveal biological sex. August and sweater guy might have absorbed some of your truths. Don't be discouraged. Object permanence, bodily integrity and Piaget's 4 stages of child development (sensory-motor, pre-operational, concrete operational and formal operational) are still widely accepted, and even have a page on our NIH website. I've helped 4 youngsters away from the ideation, which at the time was a ploy for attention. If I was Maud, I'd work on terms like cross-sex ideation and opposite sex persona. A little more on Piaget:
I am a retired pediatrician whose work revolved around the classic understanding of child development. Most of us, if we are honest, will appreciate the easy confusion which circulates in all adolescents. I am ashamed that few pediatricians have stood up in protest.
I thought you all acquitted yourselves well, particularly in the face of being called arrogant, harmful, whatever. I'm not sure I would have been so composed.
In some ways, you were speaking to the hardest-core proponents of gender ideology, because these are the folks who have medicalized their own children. They will never admit they were wrong because that's admitting they harmed the very people they wanted most to protect. The parents of "trans kids" will go down with the ship, never doubt it--the alternative is just too ghastly.
In my fifty-plus years on this planet, I have seen the worst harm done not by the folks who didn't care if they were wrong, but by those who were *sure* they were right. And these "trans parents" fall into the latter camp, for sure.
Glad you did this, even though it wasn't easy. I admire your patience and hope to emulate it. Bookmarking for ideas and strategy!
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100% agree. it's a hideous contagious mind disease that's being spread to children. lm pretty sure that with many of these kids it's attention seeking and it needs nipping in the bud quickly
About the building in the photo: when I see that symbolism so prominently and loudly displayed, I get a different message than civil rights and respect for the outlier individuals with peculiar sexual/gender identities. I see an agenda that centers Androgynous Polymorphous Ambisexuality as the new baseline of sexual identity. Displacing the traditional biology-based paradigm of human sexual identity, Dimorphism.
It the Transgender Transvaluationists would stop playing the shell game and come right out and admit it, that might make for an enlightening debate.
Thanks for taking the time to write this up. Much appreciated. Very interesting. I wish it coudl get traction, lots of traction.
“take care of ourselves and one another” with things like “headphones, fidgets, coloring books, bubbles, snacks, treats.” What treats? Fruit Rolls? Animal crackers? Bear Paws?
This is how self-infantilized these people are. It's not a Gen Z thing either; Christina Hoff Sommers commented on college student 'feminists' who needed 'safe spaces' and when there was a campus speaker they didn't like (in the era before cancellation and deplatforming, the '90s), they put up posters where people who objected also, could come to their 'safe room' and play with fingerpaints and colouring books. Yes really. That would have been the latter X'ers, actually - the earliest Millennials were still in junior high.
Gen Z is barely out of diapers, emotionally.
I am a Christian conservative who deeply appreciates the courage of Ben, Cori, and Lisa. I have learned a great deal by reading Lisa's work. I am a retired pediatrician and so baffled and ashamed of what so many of our leading children's hospitals have permitted and/or encouraged. The logic of Lisa is entirely consistent with our understanding of the developing person in the formative years. The culture of gender dysphoria clinics is adjusted and highly focused on endorsing change for deeply confused children and adolescents. I hope that plaintiff lawyers will scare children's hospitals from continuing this madness.
I appreciate the courage it took to go and participate at this meeting, especially considering how you had to deal with people who's indoctrination is so over the top I can only compare to to religious zealotry.
It's a very eye opening story to say the least, and you've given me a much better understanding of the whole transgender issue in our schools.
Bravo for this. I watched the video too. Often difficult to watch. Thank you. I learned a lot.
Watched this live-streamed. Thank you Ben, Cori, & Lisa. Your intelligence, healthy communication skill sets, courage, & conviction is greatly admired & respected. Wholly agree with Cori… these kids in 10 years time will be crying, “Where were the responsible adults? Why didn’t any of them protect me? I was just a kid; I didn’t know!” Many desistors & detransitioners have already experienced & shared exactly this. There is a great need for these now adults to connect with the younger generation drowning in the identity sea. I believe some of this work may have begun at Beyond Trans (within Genspect).
"Boys who want to present in a feminine way, have long hair, take a feminine name—they have to be safe in male spaces."
There is no evidence indicating that femme-presenting boys are any less safe in male spaces than other boys.
In contrast, there are plenty of examples of girls being less safe when they are obliged to share spaces with boys.
Schools have already been putting resources into anti-bullying campaigns, that's where the focus appropriately lies for boys.
I watched the video of the meeting. It was maddening to listen to the audience members responses since they clearly had no intention of actually listening to what was said. It is clear to me that the indoctrination runs deep. Most of my family gets it but there are a few who insist men are women if they say they are. My poor son is under this delusion too, Thank you so much for the work you are doing,
This is brilliant! (Although, I was a little confused by what I suspect may be typos in "Defending the 1st A and viewpoint diversity, as your mom did, is at its most robust when you do more than just begrudgingly allow speech but when you actually listen to other points of views. And here those points of view included multiple D2 parents.” ) But reading your essay together with the recently released Executive Order from the White House on Gender Ideology, I'm feeling energized, to say the least. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!
Thanks for putting together this lengthy and illuminating recap.
I feel for the wife/ex-wife of sweater guy and I hope she might find my channel. Can you imagine living with him? The belief that a child "knows" gender ideology at a young age is counter to all of the accepted stages of child development. Men like sweater guy and women like August are going to find this fact severely personally disturbing, because they have adopted an ideology which thwarts healthy child development and causes them to ruminate obsessively with impossible bodily aspirations. Adults like my ex-husband, who opt for hormones and surgeries to attain an opposite sex "look" are channeled into this false belief that a childhood "transition" would have made them indistinguishable from the sex they aspire to. "Passing," in general, does not work. Those who did treatments as teens or pre-teens develop "a look" but it is not accurate as the opposite sex. It reads as "altered," which is how Neddy reads. Hands, feet, brow line, voice and movement reflecting tight (male) or loose (female) joints reveal biological sex. August and sweater guy might have absorbed some of your truths. Don't be discouraged. Object permanence, bodily integrity and Piaget's 4 stages of child development (sensory-motor, pre-operational, concrete operational and formal operational) are still widely accepted, and even have a page on our NIH website. I've helped 4 youngsters away from the ideation, which at the time was a ploy for attention. If I was Maud, I'd work on terms like cross-sex ideation and opposite sex persona. A little more on Piaget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ond6_8cAA&t=55s
I am a retired pediatrician whose work revolved around the classic understanding of child development. Most of us, if we are honest, will appreciate the easy confusion which circulates in all adolescents. I am ashamed that few pediatricians have stood up in protest.
Those audience members sound unwell. August in particular. *Yikes*.
I thought you all acquitted yourselves well, particularly in the face of being called arrogant, harmful, whatever. I'm not sure I would have been so composed.
In some ways, you were speaking to the hardest-core proponents of gender ideology, because these are the folks who have medicalized their own children. They will never admit they were wrong because that's admitting they harmed the very people they wanted most to protect. The parents of "trans kids" will go down with the ship, never doubt it--the alternative is just too ghastly.
In my fifty-plus years on this planet, I have seen the worst harm done not by the folks who didn't care if they were wrong, but by those who were *sure* they were right. And these "trans parents" fall into the latter camp, for sure.