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Thank you for a wonderful thoughtful conversation! You five are some of my most favorite writers/speakers/podcasters. It was like a celebrity sighting to see you all together.

So, yes, please do this again (and again!).

As to the issue of backlash to Trump, and the possibility that some will double down on gender ideology, I agree that is likely. However, if federal and/or state policies successfully push back on gender ideology, those policies will reduce the harm overall.

I'd rather see the end of pediatric gender clinics in 40 states, say, even if the other 10 go nuts because that's 40 states where the horror is not happening. There will always be people who go overseas or go underground to do this stuff--can't stop that--but if the broad majority of young people simply don't have access to this "care," then that will be a good thing in the long run.

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Post op male transgender-identified people need to be banned from female spaces. If you let any male break women's boundaries, every man can. The worst of the worst will do so because the law lets them. That's why we have male convicted rapists claiming to be women. Our Dem governments put them in female prisons because Democrats are ideologically captured. Guess what those male convicted rapists are now doing. They're raping female prisoners, who are likely in prison for financial crimes like theft or writing bad checks. Men are in prison primarily for violent crimes. Like rape and murder. Everyone who votes for Democrats is personally responsible for these policies. Everyone who prioritizes male rights above female are part of the problem.

I'm one of those 20 million Dems who refused to vote for Democrats this year. We didn't leave the Party, it left us.

For the record: A man who gets his penis cut off is not a woman. We are not d!ckless men. We are unique in our own right. We are not little men. We are not a subset of men. How much longer are we going to pretend that the inane chant, “Trans women are women” is anything but a farce? Transwomen are men, by definition. I get it that it's hard for some of you to look at a male person who has a pretty hairdoo and facial feminization surgery and fake boobs and remember that you're looking at a dude. That's because your brains are visually oriented to sex characteristics. But if you want to know if a transwoman is really a woman, ask lesbians. We're the ones getting kicked off lesbian dating apps for not wanting to have sex with men who have fake boobs.

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What a great discussion! Measured, fact based, logically argued - who could ask for more?

Still, I'm astonished that no one seems to see how harebrained it is for Democrats to cling to the most extreme version of the radical trans ideology. Are people blind? Or have they been bullied into keeping silent?

To be clear, Budweiser has done the most thorough, most expensive, most accurate market research imaginable into the popular appeal of the trans phenomenon. And it cost them billions. I'd guess the outlays for advertising were a small fraction of the lost sales and, more important, the damage to the brand. If the executives who green lighted that campaign haven't been fired, I'm sure they are updating their resumes and polishing up their entries on LinkedIn.

I didn't see much of the advertising from the campaign. I did see a still from the "She's for they/them ...." ad featuring the freakish Sam Brinton and the stylishly coiffed Rachel Levine. It belongs in the attack ad Hall of Fame along with the Daisy Girl of LBJ's 1964 run and the Swiftboating ad of the 2004 campaign. Democrats were lucky the Trump campaign didn't hit on this subject earlier. They could have stomped the Biden-Harris administration into the dirt with the Title IX regulations abolishing girls sports, girls locker rooms, and single sex restrooms in schools. Almost equally to the point are the efforts of the Biden-Harris DOJ lawsuits compelling state Medicaid authorities to cover sex change treatments.

I don't know what would be the most effective way to persuade the Democrats to abandon their fealty to the trans lobby. I'm neither a political operative nor a marketing professional. I do think every effort should be made by sex realists to put the blame - or credit, depending on your viewpoint - for the outcome of the election on the advocates of gender woo.

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